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Snow, Ash, and the City by MikeDoscher Snow, Ash, and the City by MikeDoscher
This design springs from a discussion I had with another artist as to the features, role, and scale of a 175 ton tank. From there, it's now become the worst Christmas card imaginable.

Here's the background and specs of the tank, courtesy of :iconmisterartmaster101:

Now, this is the M6 'Schwarzkopf' of the revitalized United States of America. Due to advanced nano-tech and computers, materials science has advanced to a level unheard of previously. The reason it's so heavy is that most of the anti-tank weapons are either a) light-speed, b) near-light speed, or c) ranges from 8-12km/s in velocity. There is no 'dogging' in this world.

ECM as we know it is a thing of the past as Electronic Counter-Wave Measures has taken to the field making current E-War tactics useless (due to the fact the ECWM essentially cancels out RADAR and LIDAR and scrambles IR within a certain threshold that the ECWM unit has). Missiles have to be high quality to keep the FCS guessing or in massive quantities in order to breach the active defense system (composed on this model a .50 cal plasma auto-cannon) and the system's fire control which has a reaction time in tens of nano-seconds which is also tied in with the rest of the armament.

The linear cannon, a 150mm coil gun, fires off a 20 kilo round at 10km/s and comes in pure kinetic (rarely used because technology has overcome the offense>defense mentality thanks to rapid prototyping of armor and energy fields (and you still have to make a platform to utilize a more powerful weapon, which to conquer said defensive systems you need better materials and/or power plants to fire said weapon)), Plasma Jet or 'PlasJet' round (think HEAT on steroids and you get the idea), and High Explosive (Razor) Fragmentation or HEF (think Frag-Rounds but seriously OP against modern equipment, each fragment can detonate as well... and this is designed to go up against power armor that requires .50cal API rounds that are within the 13-14kJ energy ballpark to kill those within the lightest of PAs), and the affectionately named 'Mini-Reaper' 1.5kt miniature antimatter induced fusion warheads.

The .50cal HMGs, M2B4 series of HMGs (Ma Duse Mk II), fire high density rounds that explode inside the target at a velocity of 3km/s or more. The last weapon is a Free Electron Laser tuned to the UV-B wavelength. This is enough to kill an M1A2 with TUSK instantly with enough energy for a M8 AGS afterward.

The pic you see here is probably taken after the initial nuclear holocaust during the end of World War III or during the Siberian Campaign in the early days of WWIII in some random city. The guys in picture are a rare Union of Free Nations (the alliance the US is a part of in this world) 'light infantry' unit. Rare because cybernetics and power armor have replaced body armor as a means of protection completely in the Union and the Corporatist Confederation, even the 'body armor' is essentially a form fitting exoskeleton with advanced body armor on it that is resistant to modern battle rifle rounds. The Shino-Shiite Coalition however don't have the equipment to pump out high quality, low maintenance PAs and cybernetics so they use low grade 'body armor' similar to the Union and Corporatist's use for their mainstay army.
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Unb3kann1 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014
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kilo139 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015
took the words out of my mouth. that cannon is freaking HUGE.
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Unb3kann1 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 17, 2015
thanks to your reply i got back into the badass part of deviantart after a long time ... thanks again
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AbyssalDaemon Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
I like the design for the most part, but the turret doesn't look at flexible.
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psymonster1974 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
People in the past have tried to convince me that tanks are obsolete tech, but with active defences like these I don't think so. Where can I learn more about your pseudo-history?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well, the background isn't mine, in this case. There's a link to the fellow who wrote it in the description. :)

The tank is an interesting vehicle, and has had a role that's evolved in some interesting ways. True, the thinking was that the MBT was vulnerable to air attack to a degree that voided its effectiveness back in the late 80s through early 90s. Massed armor without air and infantry support will always be vulnerable, though. In the last decade we saw the improvement of MANPADS to the degree that the helicopter gunship seemed vulnerable, so the balance keeps changing.

It used to be that an urban environment was the last place in the world you wanted a tank, but as portable antitank threats have become more potent, they're the most survivable platform you can use. (Never attempt this without supporting infantry, however. ><)

Pardon the aside. It's got me looking at the tea leaves. :)
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psymonster1974 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013

Ah sorry missed the link in my eagerness to devour the specs. I've checked out his page now.

I think the design of the Merkava kind of vindicates the role of supporting infantry because it has that little hatch in the back where a squad can sit, turning it into a pseudo-APC. Combined arms is always likely to be the way to go, any advances that turn some tech into a 'silver bullet' just seem to encourage faster growth of countermeasures. I'm interested to see how other nations will react to the dominance of the F-22 Raptor for example, the only thing I can think of is that they will have to do something to mess up its BVR targeting or perhaps counter its missiles more effectively so it has to pull into closer range to fight. If everyone is stealthed out with awesome ECM we may even see a return of WW2 style dogfights at visual range.. 

As for tanks the trend lately seems to have been for more and heavier armour while still retaining respectable speeds, but I wonder if they were to carry weapons like this beast would any amount of armour save them, so might the response be to go for light super fast tanks that are harder to hit with kinetic weapons (maybe hovercraft), or just create swarms of drone tanks to overwhelm it.

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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
This design takes the concept a little further than I personally would have gone with. The weight of the gun and armor pushes the vehicle to a point where recovery, repair, and ground pressure are serious liabilities.

The F-22 is an interesting aircraft, but I can't help but think it may be the last manned fighter that we'll see in any sort of quantity.

I wouldn't be surprised if future armor isn't heavily augmented by unmanned units as well, with the weapon system in a separate vehicle than the controller. I don't know, though. 
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martinsilen Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
Cool picture!
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acebird1234 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cool very cool.
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excell-sama Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
its a gauss cannon right? i love gauss cannons x3
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
It sure is! :)
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ShipDestroyer Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Why do I want this tank so badly?.....
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Because you haven't thought about trying to parallel park it.
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ShipDestroyer Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Yeah... I didn't
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angelwashere97 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
parallel park? just drive it over any cars in the way. i don't think the owners of those cars will want to argue with you.
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Samskiesctt Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013
Truely a work of Art. I'm humbled and in awe. I thank you.
Now for the tough question, where can I one?-Oh and what fuels it?
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013
Regular old hydrogen. It does have the required electrolysis equipment in case of the nukes flying.
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Samskiesctt Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013
Thanks, I'm glad it's something simple.
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013
Very simple. Also interesting in the fact that most universe never specify shit like that.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you. :)

You can get it at Hope's End, made to order. It runs on the tears of angels and the blood of poets.
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Samskiesctt Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013
O-kay,and now for the down payment.
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RedVolk Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
I want to drive this....perfect either A: replacement for the halo Scorpion or B: addition support AKA F*** cannon
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
Well, its essentially a MBT in 'verse... so the Scorp will die just by having it ran over by this thing...
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
Me too, but I imagine that it would be a little like driving an apartment building around. XD
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RedVolk Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
aye
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CatalanoMedia Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Wow man, so do you actually work at those huge resolutions (3600x 1800)?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yeah, I tend to use smaller brushes for detail work, and if I keep the image size large I can avoid weird granularity artifacts with Photoshop's brushes.
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CatalanoMedia Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the reply!
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Soulslayer317 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
so awesome the tank is amazing.
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ClockworkSerpent Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Nice tank, but can it run Crysis?
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Well, the computer on this thing can run Crysis on maximum without lagging (basically 60fps ALL THE TIME plus a constant background type debug system running in the background that would break ANY computer today...)... and this would outdo any tank in Crysis (seriously, a tank that can tank (no pun intended) 222 tons of TNT in a kinetic impactor is seriously tough by most standards). Crysis, for the most part, is sensibly 'future modern day' for a videogame.

This tank, on the other hand, is designed by hyper advanced computers that can run the most hardware intensive games out there just to start their day... a snack before breakfast really. Then they do the designing for six hours straight, take a break for lunch to let the guys at nano-fab make a prototype of said design and test it, then after lunch and until dinner they make the next prototype better in every way.

Also, this is just a bog standard tank, not a doomsday cometh like a Rumbler of the Union...

Smallest gun on those AI driven tanks of death? 10 inch (254mm)guns taken off of destroyers... add in things like UV-B FEL lasers, micro-missile batteries, and of course mortars and, for the bigger ones, howitzers and missile batteries. Think Bolo and Orgre got together and made sweet sweet love and had this kid. :D
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
640 x 480 and mipmapped all to hell and back, sure. XD
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tomsymonds Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Professional Artist
Thats a bigass tank! In the words of Gunny, "Now We're talking! Ooo-Rah!"
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Sporeplayer Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
This is a good picture and the vehicle seems sensibly designed.

I did some math on that tank round. If an object is moving at 10 km/s, then it will hit with kinetic energy equal to over 11 times its weight in TNT. A 20 kilo kinetic round would hit with a force of 222 kilos of TNT.

However, I'm confused about the part where it says that anti-tank weapons are either lightspeed, near-lightspeed, or hypersonic. Do you mean they use lasers, particle canons, and railguns/coilguns?
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
To answer your question: Mostly yes, and add in hypervelocity missiles to the mix. Due to advances in metallurgy and electronics (then again, when you got -for you Haloites out there- a hybrid between smart and dumb AIs as standard equipment for most Union and Corporate equipment, its crazy), you have to be extremely fast and/or capable of spoofing enemy sensor systems as well as dogging enemy ADS (Active Defense System) mounts.

The problem is that with defense 'catching up' to offense, its hard to guess what happens next. Energy weapons are actually becoming more and more common because of recoil absorption problems. Firing a 20kilo round at 10km/s produces TONS of recoil even with something similar to the High Impulse Recoil System handling the recoil.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. The background isn't mine, but your deductions from what's stated mirror my own.
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
The lighting is really great, I love how it shows the separate textures and elements. I also like the drab "enemy at the gates /saving private ryan / every war movie" color palette. The little details as usual are awesome, adding the people and little drone give it a lived in feel as well does the wreckage and detritus.

Great as always man. you can see well thought out design in everything from the tank to the top down angle and composition. Fun piece to look at.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thank you, I do try to catch the little things. :)
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templar127 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
WOW! DAT TANK!
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Impressive isn't it?
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templar127 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Tank reminds me of Halo. :D
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Its not that pile of shit known as the Scorpion. Hell, I can design much better tank than Scorpion.
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templar127 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
ORLY? XD
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MisterArtMaster101 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
At least I can make it not using WWII era weapons.
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Saimain Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Crazy impressive work, and quite an original concept for a Christmas card, lol. I cannot even begin to comprehend machinery, much less draw it, but it looks as though you had fun with this! Wonderful composition and details, besides.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
It's not a proper card at all. The winter theme was just a sort of accident, and well, seemed funny and sad at the same time. I'm glad you like the way it turned out, I wish I had your magic with the figure.
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ShaozChampion Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
my god o.o...I can see the card now:

"I'm glad your not here...by the way, Merry Christmas" XD

Amazing ly rendered
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
"It'll be a silent and ash gray Christmas without you." XD
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Patito92 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Cool machine.
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