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Interceptor '48 by MikeDoscher Interceptor '48 by MikeDoscher
A powerful but short-legged point defense interceptor powered by a mix of jets and a rocket booster. I came up with this messing around with an idea for an aircraft that was more engine than wing, and incorporated bits and pieces of the Arado Ar 234, Horton flying wings, and some of the Bell lifting bodies. The pilot lies prone to minimize the effect of G-forces and to have a craft which can present the smallest possible frontal profile.

I figure... what if it was war? What if for whatever reason there was a need to shoot down ongoing incursions of flying saucers with the technology of the pseudo-1940s. Get to altitude as quickly as possible, launch your nuke, get out and try not to get shot down.
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:iconduraluminwolf:
duraluminwolf Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
It's nice to see this
golden oldie again!
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BTR90 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow this is oddly insane ugly as hell and so fucking awesome all at the same time
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. It's delta vee in its most raw form. I guess the engineers felt like lift was for the weak. :)
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BTR90 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No their design was just so epic that gravity bows down to it
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Bakerdezign Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2012
You're a better man,than I am,Charlie Bro.....uh oh ,Mike Doscher.
I missed this one,it's a fave now
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ksmith3620 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Great realization using different existing and "prototype" items. The Germans did look at having a couple of jet fighters with the pilot being prone. Very cool concept and very well done. Love this work.
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CommodoreHorton Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
Glorious concept. Wonderfully unconventional.
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thefailmaster Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I love the crazy design!
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kilo139 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011
Ha cool
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teslapunk Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I can see a mix of the following:
-AR-234 fuselage and canopy
-HO-229 landing gear and tail end (I think)
-a more streamlined, fleashed out wing support structure from the DO-24
-HE-162 downward angled wing tips

And it looks to be powered by Jumo 004 jet engines
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mikemars Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
great paintup! well rendered! the influences are def apparent. looks like a suicide mission though. one wrong control input and your done... :)
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks. Yeah, it's definitely a weapon of desperation. Tricky to take off, especially fully loaded. When you kick the rocket in to climb to the stratosphere though, the controls become so heavy they're essentially frozen until the fuel runs out at around 30,000 feet. The loss of both thrust and lift cause the plane to stall, but recovery is pretty easy- just put the nose down, and resist the urge to give it too much rudder. Foos are usually intercepted at around 27,000 feet- you kick on the booster from the nuke, then ride it until you get enough speed. Know when to say when. If you pickle it too soon, you'll either miss or get cooked, and if it's too late the clamps will seize and you'll follow it in. Once it's away, 8 gee snap turn and dive (the wing can take it). It handle pretty well as a glider. <-- wow, accidental brain dump there, heh

Anyways, glad you like it. :)
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CosmOSmocker Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2011  Student General Artist
surely a nightmarish plane, unstable and overpowered claustrophobic-sting-a-like flight plan... lovely ...<3<3<3
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FellaUK Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011   Interface Designer
amazing. im looking for someone to do a halifax bomber, we are putting togeather a museum peice for my grandad who piloted a halifax during ww2, unfortunatly out of the raid of 400 aircraft he was in the 3% that got shot down, the german pilot is still alive to tell the story.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011  Professional General Artist
That's interesting. I've always had an interest in historical aircraft (it might show ;P) and I've been wanting to do some more reality-based work. I might be able to help you out.
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FellaUK Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011   Interface Designer
That would be fantastic, would it be allowed to be used in the book? also website etc, with full credits to you ofcourse!, what would be fantastic if we could get the same halifax drawn.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011  Professional General Artist
Of course. It would be churlish of me to draw your grandfather's aircraft and not let you use it. :) Do you want just the aircraft drawn, or would you want it drawn as part of a scene- perhaps just prior to the fatal event? Just get together what reference you might have, and we can talk it over.
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FellaUK Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011   Interface Designer
That sounds great, do you have any messengers? maybe easier to chat? i can send you some information then
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011  Professional General Artist
I'm on AIM as hjdoscher, but tonight I'll be logging off soon to get some painting done. Are you on any?
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FellaUK Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011   Interface Designer
im on MSN, but i also have AIM, its 4am here so ill be logging off soon too, as reguards to the picture, it would be great if you could add the german plane shooting it down, heres some information:

Halifax JB918 (call sign DY-T) DY-T would of been on the side near the tail The aircraft belonged to RAF 102 Sqn. All 6 crew were killed in action shot down by a Messerschimitt Bf110F night-fighter

Fred died at the age of 20 years old, 26-27/04/43 - 102 Sqn - Ruhr - Shot Down. Crashed at Noordzee, off Texel - Eierlandse gronden

german fighter:

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[link](G9%2B-)-01.jpg < better picture

(nightfighter edition though. im guessing it was black not to sure on that one) as i dont know a whole deal about german nightcraft.

british halifax:

[link]
[link] < where markings are.

really hope you can help
thanks mate. im off to bed hopefully hear from you later.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011  Professional General Artist
I'm sorry for your loss. That information tells me quite a bit. That raid would have been on Duisberg. A little research, and I should be able to tell more particulars. The moon was waning, but just a week past full. I should be able to find the altitude and weather conditions for that particular night with a bit of looking. Crashing in the North Sea off Texel suggests he was shot down on the way back from the target, but I'll check.

My initial idea for the composition is this: [link] Mind you, it's very rough. If the night was clear, Google Earth will help me get the lay of the land correct.

Thank you for letting me be a part of this.
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GTDees Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice piece!
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Volk-oseba Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2010
That thing looks like suicide :D
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vmv-81 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That looks so cool! :)
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Wells45 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2010
This is really quite plausible for that time. Fantastic.
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KevinTheCrushinator Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Excellent, The whole atmosphere of the art is on-point.
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TomLoux Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2010
I love the design but I must say it looks a lot like a messershmit salamander ... :)
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2010  Professional General Artist
Do you mean the Heinkel Salamander? Oh yes- It's very much designed to look like the early German jets, as it was built like them. :) The engine is the Russian copy of the Jumo 004, rather than the BMW on the He-162, but it's totally the same technology.

You see, I was going for an interceptor that was designed to shoot down UFOs with 1948 technology.
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mish65 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2010
Wonderful work
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iiiiiivi Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2010
Perfect!cool!
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Lonewolf1211 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2010
Wow, these are great images - I love the look and feel of this aircraft - great work.
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WormWoodTheStar Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010
The whole concept reminds me of Messerschmitt 163 Komet, which was also small interceptor, very fast, but couldn't fly for long (7-12 minutes, depending on sources).
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010  Professional General Artist
In a way, it really was inspired but Me 163, as well as a lot of the later aircraft designs that never got beyond the planning stages. I did it as a sort of exercise to explore how you would fight a much higher tech enemy with late WWII technology.
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WormWoodTheStar Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2010
Some of them were really good ideas, but there was no time to imrpove them. I heard Me 262 engines were short-lived due to the chromium shortages. Komet could have been a good interceptor with decreased speed, longer flight time, better armament, retractable undercarriage and less violatile fuel.
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duraluminwolf Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010
Those jet engines look as though they came off the Me262 fighter plane.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
They're RD-10s, which is the postwar soviet copy of the Jumo 004... so yeah they pretty much are off the 262. :)
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duraluminwolf Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010
What was this designed for?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010  Professional General Artist
Personal project. The aircraft is a point interceptor built to try and interdict and shoot down UFOs.
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duraluminwolf Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2010
Those jet engines look as though they came off the Me262 fighter plane.
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irmax-comix Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
crazy design man!
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Jenga3 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009
>smallest possible frontal profile
UM?!
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009  Professional General Artist
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Jenga3 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009
:/

The thing has a larger profile than a MAC truck
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bear48 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2009  Professional
sweet job
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geoBRS Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good work! :+fav:
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MikeDimayuga Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2009  Professional General Artist
will lying prone really make a difference? ;D it looks to me you're more likely to pass out. (ofcourse i know zero about flying, ditto red-outs)

in any case, that's a great, great, GREAT pic. i love the design!
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2009  Professional General Artist
Typically, it's not the acceleration that puts the biggest g-load on the body but rather maneuvering. While this position would make the pilot more vulnerable to g-forces from linear acceleration, those are relatively minor. When the rocket booster first fires the pilot endures about a 3g load, which is well within what's tolerable.

The problem comes later, when the plane changes course at high speed.

The interceptor climbs at about 20 degrees to 20,000 feet accelerating the whole way. The thicker air behind them, the pilot then pulls back on the stick, gaining altitude much more quickly, but rapidly losing airspeed. At around 35,000 feet the interceptor is near stall speed from doing this. Almost fully inverted, the pilot rolls upright and goes into a shallow dive to regain airspeed. Target acquired, the pilot fires their missile then dives, doubling back as quickly as possible to avoid the blast. Hypoxia is a danger from all this hard maneuvering, but it's much less so if they're some way to keep the blood from pooling in the extremities. One way to do this is the make the pilot as vertical as possible.
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MikeDimayuga Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2009  Professional General Artist
christ, that's some hardcore conceptualizing! fuckin' kudos, man.
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groovista Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2009
Outstanding exercise of your imangination and knowledge!

Are you familiar Renaud Mangallon's models and comics?
Very much along your flightpath:

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Enjoy!
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2009  Professional General Artist
Thank you. While I'm not familiar with this particular artist's work, I do agree he's doing some very interesting things. I appreciate the links.
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