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Handley Page Space Bomber by MikeDoscher Handley Page Space Bomber by MikeDoscher
This is a test treatment for a new book I'm working on.

I've temporarily shelved 'Working Boats of the Outer Planets' until I have a better handle on the real world science. In the meantime I've started an examination of the political, military, and technological climate that followed the events of 'The War of the Worlds'.

The book itself will be an e-book and done in the style of a children's book written after the fact. For the moment I'll calling 'Spacecraft of the First World War' but this may change.
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Hexidextrous Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015
Makes me think of Battle Garegga.
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JDunk1971 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Maybe you should do something like a version of 'Jane's All the Worlds Aircraft' for this concept.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Professional General Artist
'Spacecraft of the First World War' will be a little like that, though the tone will be a bit different. It'll be written a little like the old Terran Trade Authority books.
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bear48 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Professional
wicked cool 
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Ponentguy Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really like the 3d effect!
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GratefulReflex Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like this one a LOT, you put a lot of work into making the parent designs very visible yet skipped on making them straight copies ina  believable fashion.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank you. This was one of the exploratory images I did for my 'Spacecraft of the First World War' setting, and I wanted to think through the technology and the way it would progress through time. I'm glad some of it shows.
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Cherardon Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Nice style.

Now...

MOAR WINGZ PLUEEZ!! :D
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wingsofwrath Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I really like this.
Amusing how it ended up looking a lot more like the Blackburn R.T.1 Kangaroo than any of the WW1 Handley Page variants, although I'm pretty sure the primary source of inspiration for this craft is the intervar Handley Page HP.50 Heyford, especially since the lower wing is suspended on struts like on the latter. 
The lines of the central engine nacelle put me in mind of the
post-rebuilding Savoia S.21 from Miyazaki's "Porco Rosso", although the Savoia-Marchetti S.55, Supermarine Walrus and Beriev MBR-2 are also possible real world contenders.

Also like the
Airco DH.2 / Vickers Type 161 inspired fighter in the background.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Influences wise, this one is a mess. The suspended lower is loosely from the Bristol F.2, while a lot of the structural details are a mix of the metal skinned Junkers aircraft and vague recollections of a Gotha model I built in my childhood.

This was a sort of test image to get me thinking about how the introduction of abundant aluminum alloys and new propulsion principles would have intersected with existing manufacturing techniques. It could use some refinement, to be sure.
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JDunk1971 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
I like your works like this one, with the combination of old and new.

As to the book, why not do something similar to "Jane's All The World's Aircraft"?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thanks. That's really where I'll ultimately go with these, provided that it's something I finish.
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TheUnsquishedGoomba Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Now that really does look amazing. I'd love to see your version of something like the Sopwith Camel. :D
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SirGodspeed Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
Don't take this the wrong way, but this reminds me of the "Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines" cartoon. :D
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
That's a high compliment, really. XD
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IvanRostoff Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
They are ahead of us in some ways and behind us in others
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Wingnut55 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
very nice, i can see the HP stying themes in it ! i look forward to seeing more ideas for your book.
at the end of WotW there is that laboratory explosion resulting from investigations of Martian tech, which could have been a lead-in to a WotW2, if Wells had been into sequels rather than waxing polemical. however, he was unable to control the rampant fan-boyism generated by the success of the WotW, an extreme case of which was:
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it does not sound like Tesla (whom Wells admired) gets a mention, which is perhaps not surprising if Edison is the conquering hero...
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
Nice link, thanks for that.

The age has a lot of interesting personalities, but I'll probably be contrarian and have Brunel be the one in the spotlight. It might be interesting to deal with the matter of the disconnect of much of the work being done in secret, but I'm still not sure as to the exact tone of the work.
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wingsofwrath Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ummm... wait... wasn't Brunel dead by that point? I mean the original "War of the Worlds" was published in 1898 as taking place in contemporary Britain, and Isambard Kingdom Brunel had died almost four decades earlier, in 1859. 
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
He did, I had my dates wrong. Mostly I want to avoid the cliches of Tesla-this-and-that so I'll probably being exploring figures related to naval and civil engineering, if it comes to that.
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oscargraphics Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
great illustration, congratulations!
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ShaozChampion Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Wow..I actually had an idea for this once, but I was never good in drawing air viechles back then, but now seeing this makes me want to try again at those old-mix ideas of the WWI.

Amazing job as always ^^
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pizzacat Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I always love sci-fi takes on old things and tech.
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PcTenchi Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
amazing design, like allways
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thethey Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
This is awesome, the best thing you have done in a while.
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Commander-Fillmore Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
COOL dude
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GTDees Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Great concept!
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ndgmtlcd Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Are you familiar with "Scarlet Traces"? It's a comic written by Ian Edginton and Ilustrated by D'israeli. It goes into the "What if" of an alternate realty after the failed Martian invention. Earthlings reverse-engineer the Martian machines and live in a very different world in 1908 and in a subsequent comic, a sequel, set in 1930 they go invade Mars.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
I hadn't heard of this book before. Looking at a synopsis, I seem to be interpreting the source material rather differently. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
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ndgmtlcd Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Yes, you seem to have a radically different take on the concept, from what I've been reading above and by your comments. Also, your art is very different from D'Israeli's. I bought the first and third (final) comic in the sequel, and have been following your art for years, so I'm confident that what you will do will be something that has nothing in common with Scarlet Traces.
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was471 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
I like it!, reminds me of the videogame "Crimson Skies".
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kaztle-8 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Amazing.
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blixbrunner Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Awesome. Love this kind of thing.
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LaskunA Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
awesome
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HandofManos Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This has indeed a nice and interesting ring to it. I do love the way you have coloured and shaded it. It gives a nice WW1'ish retro feel to the poster. Also looking forward what you will do with the story.
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MetalSnail Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome stuff!!!
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BrentOGara Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is amazing and beautiful... awesome concept :D I'd love to see more!
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KodyYoung Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great space bomber design.
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Pixel-pencil Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student General Artist
The title is by far the coolest thing I've read all day.
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keight Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Very nice!
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freodhoric Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love it! However, assuming that those engines have greater output than the old piston engines, that plane would tear itself to pieces on takeoff. The O/100 looks like it had piston engines similar in size to the wing units, and it was twice the size. Also, not much space for bombs is there? Is the rear turret remotely controlled?

Off beat thought: problems with scaling in wind tunnel tests led to the Wright Flyer's wing shape being optimized for supersonic flight. Does that become an asset here?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Ah! Good eyes! The construction techniques haven't changed radically yet, but the material technologies are inherited from the invaders. The spars and stringers are aluminum alloy, even if they're still being assembled a little like ash and beech.

The rear turret is currently unmanned, as orbital raids like this require maximum power from the engines right after the bomb run, and the sliding cover for the rear gunner isn't adequate protection for this. The rear gunner is actually laying down in the rear fuselage right now. The bombload is carried externally, and is quite minimal by current standards. This is really just a harassment raid, as anti air systems haven't kept pace.
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freodhoric Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Orbital raids? Sounds like that would happen at really high altitudes. So are the wing units more for lift and the middle one propulsion? Wings act in supplementary role and kept small to reduce moment of inertia.

Aluminum? I'm remembering that aluminum refining had high power consumption which kept it rare and expensive. 1900s & 10s Pierce Arrows had cast aluminum bodies. High priced car, high price material, but the tech was there. Alien tech = huge power supply. My mind = blown.
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Sagittarius-A-star Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
WW1 style space bombers- way cool!! :) That book sounds really cool. I would guess that the humans will make a punitive raid on Mars, probably using a peculiar mixture of Earth tech and reverse-engineered Martian technology. And the First World Way will be fought in space, perhaps? XD

You should fit Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison into this 'verse, undoubtedly they would compete fiercely over who got to study captured Martian tech and build weapons to defend the Earth. Tesla claimed to have invented flying machines and even some kind of death beam, so he is a perfect candidate for reverse-engineering Martian space drives and so on. Meanwhile, a furious Edison tries to market his Cosmo-Aetheric Magnetometer, designed to detect fleets of Martian spaceships as far away as Lunar orbit. Of course, Tesla will claim that Edison stole the idea from him. And then Tesla will try to market an improved version of his Death Ray while Edison tinkers with a captured Martian weapon, trying to figure out how to make it work. And so on.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
Tesla, Edison, and roles they would play in such a universe is something I might leave rather vague. They're figures with not only their mythologies, but also with second and third order mythologies surrounding them. I'm interested in doing something *slightly* more grounded, with the only overtly fantastical technology being the gravity control systems of the invaders. Such a device would be needed to make the cylinders described in the book survivable. The influence of the luminaries you speak of would be felt, but that of Whitehead, Holland, and Ford no less. Really, it was a quote from Whitehead that started the whole project in my mind:

"It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties."

The interbellum period would be a curious one, with rebuilding followed by a sort of land rush for possession of the inner worlds and the secrets therein. I hope to illustrate the story of it all somewhat indirectly, through the lens of a children's book written well after the fact.
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Sagittarius-A-star Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Sorry about the super-late reply, haven't had much time to keep track of messages lately. ^^ I quite understand what you mean, other luminaries should play an equally important role- and there are many interesting people who lived at the time. And there would be many more important people- mainly including national leaders, military commanders, famous scientists, and heads of industry that would play a far more important role in the reconstruction period than a few famous, quarreling inventors. And there would plenty of other, not so famous inventors around as well.

But, maybe there would be more interest in Tesla's "Teleforce" (which was supposed to be a sort of charged particle stream weapon that fired intense streams of charged tungsten pellets or mercury droplets at targets). Possibly an Earth spaceship could mount one as an unwieldy, heavy experimental weapon that tends to drain the entire output of the ship's generators. :) For being a "death ray", it is admirably simple in concept- kind of like an electrical BB gun that shoots lots of tiny BBs. [link]

Wells never told us how the Martians survived the immense shocks that being fired out of a space gun and crash landing in the English country side would subject them too. Some sort of inertia-cancelling device would be necessary. But, it didn't seem to serve the Martians as a propulsion unit, only as a "don't get squashed" device, since they resorted to a Columbiad-style cannon to send their invasion forces to Earth. Perhaps the gravity control device only works to nullify gravity near a planetary mass, or to create artificial gravity fields that cushion an impact? Usually "gravity control" is seen as a prelude to a field-type reactionless drive (even though it isn't entirely clear that gravity control would actually lead to a revolution in spaceflight), but the Martians don't use it that way.

Are the Barsoom novels any influence on this 'verse? Some kind of antigravity ray was used to keep the Martian airships aloft but apparently don't extend to spaceflight. Maybe that mysterious ray could also cushion the Martians from the shock of being fired out of a space cannon for the invasion of Earth... :)

Anyway, this sounds like a very exciting project, I hope you have the time to illustrate a book set in this 'verse sometime. I'd love a book about WW1 being fought with spaceships based on Martian technology from the War of the Worlds invasion. :3
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
No need to apologize. Here's a slow reply of my own.

Teleforce and the speculative works of Tesla are things I probably won't be dealing with at all, at least not explicitly and not by name. This is both a function of the perspective as well as the framing narrative of a children's book written far after the fact. Fulton, Brunel, and Whitehead or their equivalents are probably the sort of personalities we'll encounter, if we really encounter any at all.

It may be that the nullification field needs a gravity well to function, but I'm sure it'll have some sort of caveat that will advance the plot. I'll come back to that, and probably deal with any experimental weapons in the process then as well. The big twist will probably not be technical, but rather historical.

Barsoom doesn't really figure. I liked Princess of Mars well enough, but that's not what I'm doing. Mostly I'm trying for a sense of tension between the historical and fantastic, a bit like the setting for Chambers' 'The Repairer of Reputations.'

I look forward to sharing more soon, even if there's a lot of leapfrogging I need to do to get it there. I'm glad you like what I've done so far. :)
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Gromgorefiend Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Nice i like it , love your stuff.
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
This is great, Mike. Lovin' the sound of the book too.
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