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Dust Runner Concept by MikeDoscher Dust Runner Concept by MikeDoscher
The stars are denied to us. The great ships of old have fallen, nevermore to rise. Amid the ruins of great things, there is still work to do, and some principle of life survives and even prospers.

With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly.
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:iconthecake64:
TheCake64 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly."

Me and Kerbal Space Program in a nutshell
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NicciLennie Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Student Digital Artist
i like
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MaximilianYuen Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
just curious, the rear landing gear/stand/slider seems won't function when it's in VTOL config?
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
Ah, the rear skids rotate at the ankle when landing. That front strut extends and it pivots at the rear. When it flight it sits like this prevent heat damage to the skid and reduce drag. It's awkward, but the whole machine is pretty awkward. :)
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MaximilianYuen Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it's awkward, but it's awkwardly beautiful :)

"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly."
so want to put this into my signature lol
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you. :)

I really should have made up a fraudulent attribution for that quote. It seems like something that the engineer who said "All models are wrong. Some are useful." would say.
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Heretic1311 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
I like the "profound ignorance of physics" part.
And the pic!
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:iconsandtrap:
Sandtrap Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
That last line... Who should I credit it to?
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:iconmikedoscher:
MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
Either the designer of the F-4 or the J79. Maybe both. They're like the Leopold and Loeb of delta-vee.
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Sandtrap Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
Ooh, turbojets.
I can dig it.
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Aesra Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2012  Student General Artist
Fantastic work, I love how raw and industrial this looks :D
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Mr-autoCAT Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
nice detail!
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ephebox Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012
Fantastic job!I take my hat off to you!Details are fantastic! :bye:
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NOMANSNODEAD Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
the design looks impressive
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tomsymonds Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Professional Artist
effin dope. Keep posting more awesome. I want to make a game based on this stuff.
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BardofDarkness Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
I love the design. Great work...
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
Mike....dude your slaying me! I love this recent work youve been doing. Totally the reason I watched you...

SO MUCH STYLE!

What IS this style? Are you doing some sort of cyberpunk thing or is it more steampunkish or just neither...or maybe you dont even have a name for it...well I love it. It reminds me of the ships like in cowboy bebop, how they looked totally weird but were so cool regardless. I love that! functional looking yet unique.

Anywho, great job! Is this for fun or a project or you just like to show off how bad ass you are? lol Keep up the great work Im really enjoying it.

you just fed my brain an inspiration sandwich...(and a cookie).
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Ha ha, thanks.

I'm really no sure what to call it, or even if it's a good idea to call it anything just yet. Most of the stuff I do for personal work lately shares a couple common questions I ask myself, but that's about it. The questions are along the lines of: What's inside? Who made it, and what happened to it? How was it made? I sometimes wonder what the aesthetic and technology would be of post-post-apocalypticism. Somewhere there is a tension between what was, and what's still coming into being.
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
Yes I see! Fabulous line of thought there...like makes you wonder, if they had bits of knowledge on current machinery, and bits of past, but none of the know how in between what would come it? Would it be stuff from now and the last 30 years...or world war 2 era machines but with better parts or further back like the 30s and before? Really makes you wonder! I hope you continue these interesting designs, I am loving them. They are really inspiring for me.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks, I'm glad you like them. I guess I wonder a little bit about Gamma World type settings, and how they would evolve. Situations where you would have artifacts of Star Trek-like technology, but strung together into a useful infrastructure with the materials and know how of the 20th century. You'd wind up with a lot of black boxes of known capabilities, but whose inner workings might as well be magic.
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012
Ya so true. They may know how to make something work for them but not how that object actually functions. That could lead to some very interesting designs, like you said. If they knew how to make things fly, but had never seen airplanes, what would they design instead. Great concept. Looking forward to more!
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thebigu007 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
Very well put. :]
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Ovni-the-UFO Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly."

And that is why we strap rockets to cargo airplanes occasionally.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
That and it's awesome.
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TNGM Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly." yep, that reminds me of the saying, "helicopters don't fly, they just beat the air into submission."
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Damn straight. It's like with each beat of the rotors, they seem to say 'I got yer Reynolds Number right here, buddy!' XD
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TNGM Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
this also explains how bees can fly. they just ignore physics.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
OMG HAX
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chaos-sandwhich Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
awsome description, and great design
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katze316 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As always, beautiful design :) Also, that's my favorite quote for the day :D
It reminds me of a video I saw once, about an Israeli pilot in an F-15 who successfully landed the plane despite losing the entire starboard wing- I believe what he said was, "Once you get over a certain speed, even a brick will fly."
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. :)

I'd heard about that! Seems the combination of it being a fly-by-wire aircraft and the pilot's inability to *see* the damage meant he didn't know how bad the damage was.
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katze316 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sometimes ignorance really is bliss :XD:
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
That's why my ex was so happy.
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screenscan Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012   Interface Designer
great work
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karaxis Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
as I've stated times before your designs really blow my mind...fantastic yet practical...I recently picked up a couple of books you may be interested in..."International Rescue Thunderbirds Agents Technical Manual" published by Haynes...it's chock full of clear, highly detailed cutaway drawings of all the sets and equipment and not just the main vehicles but a lot of the rarely seen support equipment...apparently Haynes publishes other books of cutaways both real and fictional, I look forward to acquiring several other of their publications...on the other end of the design spectrum there's "Armored Core Designs, 4 & for Answer"...the book is a massive hardbound collection of sketches, drawings and screen shots of not just (in my humble opinion) some of the coolest mecha but environments and other awesome weapon platforms etc. I search the world for any book containing drawings of all things sci-fi esp mecha, hardsuits, starships and environments...this Armored Core book is one the best to come down the pike in quite awhile...how's your project coming along...looking forward to seeing your work in print...
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Again, thank you. The Thunderbirds (and Gerry Anderson in general) are responsible for a lot of really interesting work. Some call him the 'Father of Kitbashing' for making a lot of people see the potential for recombining existing designs into something new.

I'd seen that range of Haynes manuals, but the one I saw for the Hawker Hurricane was a bit disappointing. I'd expected something like a 'real' Haynes/Chilton's manual, even though in hindsight the market would be ridiculously small. The Hurricane is a surprising good candidate for building a replica of with a basic shop, as so much of it was wood and fabric over a tube steel monocoque. I take your point on the value of cutaways, though: There's nothing quite like seeing what's inside to understand the shape of the outside.

I haven't seen that Armored Core book, but Izumo Jyuki's 'Industrial Divinities' was a revelation! Miyazaki's 'Daydream Note' had a lot of cool stuff in it as well.

The book project is picking up again after a busy period. It might be a hard sell for a mainstream publisher, it might not. I'll get it out there, by hook or by crook. :)
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PcTenchi Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
another amazing design. Mike...
if I weren't son busy . maybe could model it-?
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BJ-O23 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heh. I had a similar line on the back of a T-shirt when I was in college: "You might be an aerospace engineer if.... You truly believe that given a powerful enough engine, even large buildings can be made to fly." :D
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, look at the F-4. XD

DAT DELTA VEE
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Alf-Alpha Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Awesome design!!
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ndgmtlcd Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
Kelly Johnson, the designer of Lockheed Constellations, U2s and many other famous planes, used to say that an aircraft has to look right to be able to fly well. That saying was repeated over and over. I think that you're doing some very interesting experiments in turning that old saying on its head.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
The Conny and the U2 are both beautiful aircraft, in different ways. Maybe some of the most beautiful ever, along with the A-4 and the DC-3. I always liked the weird ones though- the ones that were a bit strange or ugly, but to a purpose. The A-10 and some of the transitional designs from between the world wars always struck me at the difference of their solutions from what seems normal or obvious.
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Liquid-Grievous Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
love this, will definitely be making this one in 3d.
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Cool, can't wait to see it!
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CaelynTek Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Even I hated the drawing (I LOVE the drawing) I would have faved this one just because of the words:

"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly."

Brilliant.
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karanua Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What a brilliant concept of technology decadence. Great design very well done :clap:
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MetalSnail Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome!!!
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Kulter Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
Even if it doesn't fly, it will fall with style !
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MikeDoscher Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Professional General Artist
That's the spirit!
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AtholTheDestroyer Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"With enough thrust and a profound enough ignorance of physics, you can make anything fly."

That good sir is quite possibly the best line I have ever heard.
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